Notes on Suno: Grok's Process: Vocals (Duets, Deep Male Vocals, Personas)

This is an instrumental song and has no lyrics. I'm using this as a way to keep my notes on Suno. There is only one thing to say about trying to work with deep male vocals in a genre that isn't 'crooner', 'metal', 'opera', or 'doo-wop': FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU It's absolutely friggin' impossible to work with or get to gen consistently, as of right now, for me. The genres I'm working in default to HIGH male voices. "basso profondo" works, but only in specific genres which you can't port across to other genres. sneaky genre shift isn't the answer there either as the deep voice runs away when the genre shifts. General Vocals: - [enhance vocals to male/female] works really well just after a structural metatag, as long as that gender has been in the song previously - but if you want to switch gendered vocals mid-song, you almost HAVE to have an empty/instrumental extend in between to wipe the seed, and even that's not guaranteed if you have a LONG duration/high proportion of the total song of one gendered vocal beforehand. That being said, once you have a change of gender in the song, doing duet stuff later becomes a LOT easier. Priming the pump and all that. - As an example [enhance alternating female to male vocal] had a 0/20 chance of working before wiping the seed and changing gendered vocal, but afterwards that number rose to 4/9. Which is... really good. I mean the quality was still total crap, but I HAD the alternating gender voices. - [enhance vocal to male] [enhance vocal to female] worked, as long as I kept the formatting up, but that was the 4/9 - note that there were still a bunch of gens that didn't have it. This particular formatting also allows for mid-line layering, especially if the tabbed line has brackets around it. - extending vowels has a chance of Suno singing just the vowel, so 'Hooooooold me tight" is sung variably as Hohhhhhld me tight or Hooooooh-ohld me tight. This was in doo-wop, admittedly. - be careful of schwa vowels because it completely changes the word then. "trou-bleeeeee" isn't singing trou-buuuuuhl, it's singing troub-Leeeeee / Liiiiii" 50% of the time - on the other hand accent-type things, if they're typed out nice, work just fine - softening 't's for example, "plenny" for "plenty" - that's in Peace In My Mind - sounds very natural. - extending consonants doesn't do much. - commas in lyrics provide a short break/rest. Exclamation marks provide something of a separation and usually some emphasis. In some genres this can make completely different vocal techniques, like screams for female singers in rock. - Need to test question marks - need to test semicolons - colons (:) do nothing in lyrics but are pretty essential in metatags Personas - Personas are fcking WEIRD man - what they basically are, is a song's prompt and data in a portable package, which means that if you're doing something in the same genres, it acts basically like a Cover. If you're not, whatever song you make them from, prepare for that song's prompt AND LYRICS to infect your later gens. Hope you were writing something in the same style and not just using a voice that you really liked! - on the upside, I think that's how you can do fusions / mashups of songs. -